Hi All, My name is Jim and I am really new to exploring and learning about nudism I have done a nude hike and other thatn that I have been practicing nudism mostly at home.I have a house that is in a very private area and that makes it easy for me. I am wondering what the ratio of women are to men in the real nudist community?

1. It depends on where you're located, what day of the week you're attending which nudist venue. You'll also find many people who visit and enjoy nude beaches saying that they're not nudists.
   
   I can very much recommend visiting Cherokee in Crossville, TN and/or Rock Haven in Murphreesboro,TN. Those are landed clubs. There are also a couple of nonlanded TN clubs that would probably like having another home at which to schedule an event.
   
   I would say that probably it's a 3:1 ratio overall. However, each nudist venue can change with the day of the week, the location, and what others have going on in their lives.
   Cheri
   
2. At the Phi Nu Swims I've seen, the ratio averaged about 22 men to 17 women and 3 children. At Phi Nu House Parties I have attended, it averages about six women for ten men and, usually one child.
   
   I will mention the difficulty that applies in getting teenagers, of either sex, involved. My 14-YO son went to a Swim, but is the only teenager to attend any event I have been to. He does not feel that he can invite his male friends, and that difficulty increases greatly for the girls. Then again, it's worse for girls he doesn't know very well. So, he has not come back again.
3. I too would estimate that the M/F ratio to be about 3/1. A lot depends on the local. Ironically, my experience is that in clubs that allow single men, eventually the ratio will tend to level out more, assuming the guests are properly screened. It will never be at a 1/1 ratio in the current American culture we have today. It is easier to just ban all single males and
   be done with it. There will always be friends of the owners and the like that will be exempted.
   
   What troubles me is that this question has been argued and debated since at least 1980 with no solution in sight. A much more pragmatic approach would not be to fix the blame but fix the problem. It is not that there are too many males, it is that there are too few females.
   I was extremely disappointed to see that the AANR, formerly the ASA, was so disinterested in this matter. While it is true that they have no power to order any camp to not discriminate, they do have the power to approve or disapprove any camp. No camp, unless they are well located and well financed, will survive for long on a commercial basis without the approval of the AANR or the Naturist Society. By threatening to pull the membership of camps that discriminate against males,
   (similiar to what they would do if the camps discriminated against ANY other group), the problem would solve itself. Heck, I am 58 years old. How could any female feel threated by my just being there? Actually, as silly as that thought is, it is also a little flattering!
   
   Can anyone, anyone at all, give a single male one reason to join, (or support), the AANR?
4. I have done an adult head count several times. A few times there have been as many females as males but usually the ratio runs roughly 4:5 (f/m), at worst but rare, 4:6.
   
   I have unsuccessfully tried to recruit females. Although some have been amused by my escapades that I write up in nude trip reports. I came close twice but when the females fully realized that I was married and only looking for a platonic relationship I got dropped like a rock.
   
   Best Wishes, Jim
5. Alicia, just check the posting rules linked on the front page. I've made the link easier to find.
   
   Regarding the female to male ratio, I suspect the ladies don't show up until they are comfortable with the type of atmosphere that might develop. It's said the husbands drag their wives to the first visit, however the wife is the one that often drags him back for return visits.
   
   I've held the opinion that men in their first few visits secretly hope for a more sexually charged atmosphere, but the women are the most comfortable once they find sexuality is NOT the focus at a standard nudist resort.
   
   Of course, even just a few googley-eyed single guys sitting around the pool eyeing the new ladies can spoil that comfort zone. I suspect that voyeurism in some locations could have a direct effect on that female to male ratio, since return visits are essential to build the female demographic.
   
   So the question really is, how do you make the ladies more comfortable, so that the resorts see no need to reduce the male participation?
   
   Kevin
   
6. Hi Folks,
   
   This is another topic that will never die. If people would only listen to voices of reason, there would be no need to beat this poor horse into bloody ribbons. Yes, there are a tiny handful of clubs in the US (mostly member owned co op clubs) which have a restrictive gate policy toward single men, but the vast vast majority of landed clubs welcome single males (and their money). As I have outlined many many many many many times previously, to insure your acceptance, follow these "rules":
   
   1. Be a member of TNS or AANR. You can join directly or through a club (like Cheri Alexander's Travelites)
   
   2. Go to the website of the club you'd like to visit. Learn something about the club. READ THE RULES so you'll know what to expect.
   
   3. Call ahead, introduce yourself. Tell them you are an AANR (or TNS) member and you'd like to visit their facility.
   
   4. On your first visit, be cool. Check the club out. If possible, join in a volleyball (water or sand) game. Get to know people through shared activities. Strike up conversations with other single men. Chances are they may be a member and can introduce you to others.
   
   5. Do not approach or interact with children. You will certainly draw a lot of negative attention from other adults.
   
   6. And most importantly, be polite. Have fun.
   
   See you at White Tail Resort.
   
   Walt Iliff
7. When my wife and I go to naturist spas we prefer to go on couples nights.
   
   We went to an open naturist swim last year where there were about 20 guys and 3 ladies. We found that if we went into the sauna then 10 guys suddenly decided it would be a good idea to have a sauna. If we went into the steam room the same thing happened.
   
   I don't mind guys following us around if they are going to bring their wives with them, but this was just nasty, they meant no harm, they just wanted to see a naked woman, and probably enjoyed themselves in bed on their own when they got home, but we never went there again, we'll stick to couples evenings.
8. What's worse? Single guys looking at you sexually or females looking at you critically? Either way, we must seek to be personally satisfied with ourselves before the thought of trying to figure out someone's motive behind watching us ceases. In my experiences, six women and one man in a hot tub would be considered a great outing. However, six men and one women, there has to be something sexual related with this we think.
   
   Really think about it just from reading the post on this site. Everything evolves around the genitals (i.e. shaved, pierced, erect, open legs, pictures and it keeps going on and on ...) of individuals. Or for a lack there of...... everything evolves around ones view of your desire to bring attention to the genitals in a non sexual environment. The penis is many things, it's not always a loaded gun. Look at some of the pics people place into circulation ( male w/ half erect frontal view either sitting w/ legs spread and or squatting with the tools swinging towards the ground). He is shaved and always talking to females. And he is probably alone. And we wonder why singles are discriminated against (not that it is right) and not wanted around. Let's not forget that anyone who has been involved in nudist circles for any length of time has heard a story or two ( true or false) about some lone male stealing someone's woman.
   
   If possible, bring a gal...... don't seek out women and really pay attention to your interaction with children. In the back of my head (having four children) with all the concerns of screening and the motivation of people out there, you really don't know and everyone without a wife or lady is suspect. Sad reality.... the best advice is if you are new, join in on the activities around you and wait for the world around you to open up.
   
   Dewey
9. A nonlanded club is one that does not have permanent facilities and meets at members' homes with facilities, ie. pool, hot tub, trails, volleyball, pingping, horseshoes. Some times visitis landed clubs, those with permanent facilities, possibly has clothed events, partipate in community activities, etc.
   
   The nomenclature of travel club is outdated as is nudist colony.
   
   Getting back on topic, many nonlanded clubs do have a quota system in place, Travelites has one at which there will rarely if ever be more than 3 to 1 men:women as you're in a smaller place than at a landed club. At times, there are more women than men. At this past weekend's event, it was 50:50.
   
   Best regards, Cheri
10. I was on Haulover Beach last Sunday and Monday. The male to female ratio was probably about 8 to 1. There were quite a few single men. Most were nude though and just taking in the sun, not leering, so it was not uncomfortable. There were enough nude women that my girlfriend and I did not feel strange about it at all. We only saw two kids on Sunday and one kid on Monday and they were with their families so it was very cool. I never felt that being nude there was an exhibition-like experience. It was the most free feeling thing I have ever done. There were a couple of men we saw with erections but they were not touching themselves. I would go back (and will) the first chance I get. I think the best nude experience is if a man accompanies a woman and can share the feelings of being nude together and enjoy it...not just to be checking everybody out...although that is definitely part of it, and is quite enjoyable too.
11. Based on my own experiences, I would guess that there are many women who don't go to public venues like resorts and such, but are still active nudists in their own right. I am always nude at home, and have been for all of my adult life. I will often hike or camp nude in "safe" mostly secluded areas. In the summer I prefer to go to a local clothing-optional beach (I dislike wearing a swimsuit) but try to avoid sitting alone. It's not that I'm shy--I was a nude art model for several years--it's just that I'm careful. I suppose my nudism evolved as more of a private thing anyway, since for many years I was the only nudist I knew.
    
    Many people, when they get into something new, try to join clubs or surround themselves with as many like-minded people as possible. There's nothing wrong with that, but some of us are perhaps a little less socially-oriented. I don't think that makes me less of a nudist, but it doesn't help resolve the male/female imbalance.
    
    I have often thought of visiting Glen Eden just to see what it's all about. Maybe I will.
12. Yes discrimination (single male) is not pleasant and prejudment,because others have spoiled the welcome mat isn't funny. They've had problems with a "few undesireables" and unfortunately the majority suffers. As cheri says knowing ahead of time will avoid disappointment.Some clubs welcome singles(male) and others won't.The some that do are expecting decent,honest nudists.
    
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